I will reserve my comments on Pelosi till her majority take over.  Right now I am still cussing the the present majority.

Visu labu,

>Even though I’m not under the
>bridge just yet, I just can’t vote
>Democrat. They played so dirty during
>this administration, I just don’t trust
>any of them.

All things, even playing dirty, are relative.  Are you implying that we should be blaming the democrats for the incompetence and corruption of this administration?

Apparently many have not attained the success in life to which they feel entitled,so they blame the gov’t.

Should one even consider the anti-wealth political opinions of the economically challenged?Instead of risking everything for a chance at success, they sit in their secure cubicle with their lunch-bucket investment complaining they are losing in an economy where financial risk is at a premium.One should follow their advice? Go with the advice of the successful risk takers? Hell,there are more important issues than the economy.

Pelosi will drive the economy into the ground, but fortunately Dennis is back in the 2008 race .

Labrīt!

I do love this phrase—“anti-wealth political opinions.” So, in other words, when 0.01% of the pop. has 99.99% of the wealth (which, assuming current trends, should take place shortly before global warming brings us, rich or poor, to a boil)… those questioning this distribution (and what it means, and how it was brought about, and what its effects might be) will be called “anti-wealth”?

Vysu lobu,
/P, Lover of Wealth

>Apparently many have not attained the
>success in life to which they feel
>entitled,so they blame the gov’t.

Heh… was wondering how long it would take for the plain silly anti-rich argument to rear its head.
I don’t blame the govt for the entitled success I’ve yet to reach in my life. I have no problem with the rich being rich. Its what the rich do best. I can live with greed is good. My problem is that we have long since passed out of the Age of Greed and entered into the age of Glutony. Have yet to meet anyone who would defend glutony.

>Should one even consider the anti-wealth
>political opinions of the economically
>challenged?Instead of risking everything
>for a chance at success, they sit in
>their secure cubicle with their
>lunch-bucket investment complaining they
>are losing in an economy where financial
>risk is at a premium.One should follow
>their advice? Go with the advice of the
>successful risk takers? Hell,there are
>more important issues than the economy.

Kudos. Great term this “anti-wealth”. Right up there with “family values,” “activist judges” and “extreme renditions”. Meaningless, but rolls off the tongue tripingly.
I am actually very pro-wealth. Don’t know too many who are anti-wealth. Wealthy nations where the majority of citizens share in that wealth are stable. Most of those citizens tend to be averse to risk. That’s why those nations are stable.
Wealthy nations where the majority of citizens do not share in that wealth are not stable. Usually they don’t lack for risk takers either. Alas, those risk takers don’t usually invest in the stock market, but tend to invest in arms and red flags.
Take your choice. I’ve made mine. Not a big fan of red flags.

>Pelosi will drive the economy into the
>ground, but fortunately Dennis is back
>in the 2008 race.

I’ll take her any day over Tom Delay or Dennis Hastert.

Andrejs

>>Even though I’m not under the
>>bridge just yet, I just can’t vote
>>Democrat. They played so dirty
>during
>>this administration, I just don’t
>trust
>>any of them.
>
>All things, even playing dirty, are
>relative.  Are you implying that we
>should be blaming the democrats for the
>incompetence and corruption of this
>administration?
>

Being that playing dirty politics is relative, then are you implying that the Republicans have in the past blamed administrations under the
Democrats for being corrupt and incompetent?

VIA Andrejs:
>
>Dear Edigu,
>
>Don’t blame poor Reyes. He was probably
>just briefed by the outgoing Chairman
>who got all of his intel straight from
>the White House.
>And what’s this about cross dressers? I
>figured you for a kilt wearing man?
>
>Andrejs

Dear Andrejs,

Putting the blame for the stupidity of the Democrat party’s brain-trust on the White House, are ya?  Man, that Karl Rove must be some wicked sort of evil genius!

Kilts are a ceremonial garb for the men of Scotland.  They’ve been wearing ‘em since the time of the Picts.  I’ve read somewhere that there may be some similarity in word origins for “drape” and the Latvian word “drēbe.”

“Cross-dressing” came up in another thread—a medieval despot named Witold (Vytautas in Lithuanian, Vitolds in Latvian) was famous for beating a hasty retreat from the castle Krewo (Belarus) while wearing the clothing of a female servant.  From what I gather, Witold The Transvestite is still a national hero to some.  Witold led a “crusade” that tried to wipe out the Tatar people and steal their land, but Edigu and Temur Kutlugh crushed the crusaders at the Vorskla river in 1399.  Witold, however, ran away as his armies were virtually destroyed.  Edigu is still considered a national hero of the Kazakh and Tatar people.

Hope that clears things up for you, Andrejs.

/Edigu

VIA Celms:
>
>Well Edigu, Reyes isn’t leading us into
>a war not knowing that Iraq consitutes
>Sunnis, Shi’ites and Kurds.

Dear Celms,

Sadly, it appears that Reyes et al. will be leading the US into defeat.

Let’s bring troops home from Kosovo first.  Now there is an illegal war for you!  When did the Serbs ever attack the United States?  Prosecute Clinton, Gore, Albright, and Wes Clark for their crimes first.

Speaking of bringing troops home, perhaps the U.S. occupation of Germany should be brought to a close as well.  If shutting down Baghram air base is what’s called for, then shouldn’t we close down Wiesbaden too?  American troops have been stuck in the quagmire of the German occupation for 60 years!  Didn’t Truman say “mission accomplished” on VE-Day back in 1945?

Hopefully, Celms, you will keep reminding the good folks here on how you believe that the US efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan should fail.

/Edigu

>Dear Andrejs,
>
>Putting the blame for the stupidity of
>the Democrat party’s brain-trust on the
>White House, are ya?  Man, that Karl
>Rove must be some wicked sort of evil
>genius!

Dear Edigu,

Not at all. I blame the Democrat party’s brain-trust’s stupidity on the Democrats. I blame the White House’s stupidity on the wicked sort evil genius Karl Rove.

>Kilts are a ceremonial garb for the men
>of Scotland.  They’ve been wearing ‘em
>since the time of the Picts.  I’ve read
>somewhere that there may be some
>similarity in word origins for
>"drape" and the Latvian word
>"drēbe."

Maybe so. Still looks like a mini-skirt to me. Ceremonial or not. I didn’t read it anywhere, but do you think that the English word “skirt” has anything in common with the Latvian word “skirt”? I think its what leads to the high rate of divorces in Latvia. Latvian men in kilts (skirts) probably would lead to skirt marriages?

>"Cross-dressing" came up in
>another thread—a medieval despot
>named Witold (Vytautas in Lithuanian,
>Vitolds in Latvian) was famous for
>beating a hasty retreat from the castle
>Krewo (Belarus) while wearing the
>clothing of a female servant.  From what
>I gather, Witold The Transvestite is
>still a national hero to some.  Witold
>led a “crusade” that tried to
>wipe out the Tatar people and steal
>their land, but Edigu and Temur Kutlugh
>crushed the crusaders at the Vorskla
>river in 1399.  Witold, however, ran
>away as his armies were virtually
>destroyed.  Edigu is still considered a
>national hero of the Kazakh and Tatar
>people.

This Witold sounds like a crafty guy to me.

>Hope that clears things up for you,

Every little bit helps.

Andrejs

Why, sure, Peteri--it’s already called “stirring up class warfare.”

Stephen

>(which, assuming current trends,
>should take place shortly before global
>warming brings us, rich or poor, to a
>boil)… those questioning this
>distribution (and what it means, and how
>it was brought about, and what its
>effects might be) will be called
>"anti-wealth"?
>
>Vysu lobu,
>/P, Lover of Wealth

Since studies indicate the flatulence of bovines create a substantial portion of the gasses credited to global warming,the blame for the warming must be placed upon the vegeterians .Kill more animals and decrease global warming!  Everytime a cow passes gas,another polar bears falls into the sea
Maybe even our philosopher Ojars the Blind can hold only the tail of a cow(not elephant) and get a dose of reality.

Actually everyone is pro-wealth provided they have wealth “distributed” to them instead of being required to follow the process to earn it.They only become anti-wealth when the “haves” decline to distribute to the “have-nots”.

The risk takers do not wrap themselves in red flags ,the red flags keep warm the ones demanding “distribution” of others’ wealth.

Wrong Dennis Andrej, I was referring to Dennis Kucinich(D-Ohio).

>Since studies indicate the flatulence of
>bovines create a substantial portion of
>the gasses credited to global
>warming,the blame for the warming must
>be placed upon the vegeterians.

Now that’s a remarkable bit of logic. If humans were all vegetarians, perhaps there might not be so many cows?… Just a thought, I could be wrong.

Pierre

But since vegetables cause more flatulence the human output would equal the cows’ and we’d be right back where we were.

Ogresdēls wrote, among other things:

Actually everyone is pro-wealth provided they have wealth “distributed” to them instead of being required to follow the process to earn it.

“The” process? Sounds Kafkaesque to me.

You have a one-track mind, methinks—everybody who gets rich deserves to be rich, and this process is regulated by fate or the gods. I’m not interested in disputing that, really—not now.

Ever hear of such a thing as a “commonwealth”? I’m afraid it’s not a trivial red-pink notion—I know a rich Venezuelan, for example, and being a filthy rich person in a f*cked up, dirt poor country only goes so far… you could get a Bolivarian revolution, even!

Latvia is arguably the most rightist country in Europe. This was not always so, however, and very many Latvians possess land that was expropriated in a radical land reform initiated by people who refused to follow a process that was based upon enslavement.

Rich Latvians played kissy-kissy with Baltic Germans and Russians, back then, for the most part. They’re forgotten, for the most part. So mote it be.

Vysu lobu,
/P

>But since vegetables cause more
>flatulence the human output would equal
>the cows’ and we’d be right back where
>we were.

Voilà!  Goes to show how little I know about the “pirduliši”.

Pierre

PS: Pēteris questions the “process”, I question the “fumes"… :-)