What might come of the U.S. eschewing its Eastern European allies.

On a related note, yesterday marked the fifth anniversary of the Russian invasion of Georgia. Unindentified individuals posted a 47-minute video called “A lost day, the truth about the war of 08/08/08.” In it, former military officials accuse Dmitry Medvedev of his indecisiveness when it came to fighting in Georgia. Some have suggested cracks in the tandem.

And Poland has something to gain in its quest for stature amongst the German and French powers by also offering olive branches to Russia by freeing up certain travel into Poland from Kaliningrad - and action that will certainly complicate any other EU member that shares a frontier with Russia.

Poland may be stepping away slightly from the US and moving towards German leadership, but Poland is also stepping away from other European alliances long considered strong and of common mind.

Komorovski says - “Kiss my arse - in an election year, we’re a holy site !”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/9456610/Polish-president-accuses-Obama-of-betraying-Poland.html

Polish president accuses Obama of betraying Poland

The Polish president has accused Barack Obama of betraying Poland by cancelling a promised missile defence system.

By in Warsaw

5:08PM BST 06 Aug 2012

Reflecting Warsaw’s long-standing anger over the 2009 cancellation of a controversial Bush-era anti-ballistic missile system President Bronislaw Komorowski said Poland should build its own missile shield to ensure national defence.

“Our mistake was that by accepting the American offer of a shield we failed to take into account the political risk associated with a change of president,” said Mr Komorowski in a magazine interview. “We paid a high political price. We do not want to make the same mistake again. We must have a missile system as an element of our defences.”

Last week, Mitt Romney used a visit to Warsaw to condemn Russia as a “country where the desire to be free is met with brutal oppression” in a bid to establish hawkish credentials ahead of the US elections.

The Republican candidate has accused President Obama of “abandoning Poland” by cancelling the missile defence plan in order to aid his much-criticised attempt to “reset” relations with Moscow.

Mr Obama’s decision to scrap George W Bush’s original missile shield dismayed the Polish government, especially as many Poles saw it as an attempt to appease Russia, Poland’s historical and Cold War foe.

Later US pledges to place a Patriot missile battery in Poland, and elements of the SM-3 interceptors which will replace the Bush system, failed to eradicate the perception in Warsaw that Polish interests had been sacrificed for the benefit of Washington-Moscow relations.

By wishing to avoid another “mistake”, Mr Komorowski has questioned the long-term viability of the US made SM-3 system, which is intended to secure Nato’s eastern flank from missile attacks launched from the Middle East.

Stanislaw Koziej, head of Poland’s National Security Council and a former defence minister, said any Polish missile system would be integrated into Nato systems. He added that while the American system will defend Poland it was also created, he claimed, to suit the needs of the US, and therefore a national system was needed.

The reasoning of the Poles appears to make sense—if rocket delivery systems are the only systems that will deliver nuclear weapons. However, if we take into account the WTC case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c39O-ftZboU&feature=relmfu , we can understand that packet suitcases can be located anyplace by the ‘slow’ rather than “fast” or “speed” delivery method. I suspect the it is the “slow” delivery systems that will overwhelm us, and are currently causing the Americans to be cautious and pull back from the Syrian embraglio.

The flwg an interesting radio interview with Dimitri Khalezov.
Start listening with the 10 min, because the first part is meaningless chit chat by radio host.
Some most interesting info (about 15 min) about potential disposal by mini nuke burial of toxic radiation sites, such as Chernobyl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brQqRLCxJew&feature=related.

Just wondering whether one of the “engineering devices” that pulled down WTC buildings is located under a pier on the South Bridge over Daugava. If the bridge is not yet a failed transportation link, like the twin towers were a failed commercial venture, it is—failure or not—of some military strategic importance. Is perhaps the 30 million that went missing from the accountants books, perhaps accountable for the cost of one such device?

Poland views the US as an unreliable ally due to the failed policy of appeasement reborn through pres Clueless. The community organizer just cannot understand that nations have an interest in survival and doubt that the russkys will sit in the appropriate part of the circle singing Kumbaya!

ogresdels - 18 August 2012 07:02 PM

Poland views the US as an unreliable ally due to the failed policy of appeasement reborn through pres Clueless. The community organizer just cannot understand that nations have an interest in survival and doubt that the russkys will sit in the appropriate part of the circle singing Kumbaya!

Seriously naive.

Explain why Poland has relaxed entry/exit requirements for Russian citizens across the Kaliningrad border last month. Their entry isn’t just into Poland - it’s into the EU.

The US has become an unreliable ally as much of Europe notes the rise of isolationism as expressed by tea baggers and libertarians who represent the squeacky wheel of the opposition.

Poland, losing their decades long traditional ally in the US right, is making pragmatic choices that it feels it has to make. What Obama does or doesn’t do isn’t as significant. Poland’s US based diaspora used to be able to activate no small number of US Republican legislators to advocate for them in Washington. The tea baggers killed that.

My interest is of course the question of the survival of Latvia as a truly sovereign country—in the old sense of the word.

While Poland, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, England, and a number of other Europeans countries have sizeable populations, Latvia does not. This makes Latvia’s sovereignty under the present government subject to the “uncertainty” principle, that globalization has introduced. Globalization is being pushed in Latvia every day by the governsment (such as it is=there is no such thing as either a foreign policy or policy of domestic self-interest). I find the whole Latvian government establishment extremely weak, full of double talk, repressive of open discussion and avoiding public clashes by way of serious differences of opinion through media control. Twenty-one years after regaining independence and falling under the control of a government subject to the dictates of macro-economics—exports, you know—, corporate propaganda-advertising, timidity before Russia, with the whole nation utterly clueless concerning its priorities and geopolitcal situation, there indeed ought to be a “throw the bums out” party.

I raised the controversial question as to what happened in NYC at WTC in preceding posts, because if the officer who formerly served in the Soviet nuclear establishment is right as to the fate of WTC and the failed attempt to bury Chernobyl, then my perspective changes from an aggressive promotion of domestic economy (by way of an open and unrestricted market in pain killing pharmaceuticals) to an agreement with the Lithuanians as to the nuclear power energy station. My change of heart occurss, because of the 150 Kiloton “engineering device”, which I understand is the limit of such a device for domestic use under an international agreement. Still, in order to bury Chernobyl thoroughly, some international agreement will have to be negotiated, because in this instance the “engineering device” has to exceed 150 Kilotons, because the burial chamber has to be deeper and larger.

Needless to say, Latvians will have to give serious thought as the where to build their nuclear energy reactor. I do not favour the swampy area of Latgale, but turn my eye toward Vidzeme or Kurzeme.

Seriously uneducated Vidas , Poland is sending a message to pres Clueless that double crossing an ally has consequences. Problem with the Poles is that they erroneously assume some competence in the US administration to understand the message.

Ogresdels,

Move within 100 miles of a political center of any consequence and get back to me, ok ? Your want to be some hayseed Kissinger is cute but unconvincing Ogresdels.

Poland has relaxed border crossing requirements for Russians entering Poland from the Kaliningrad oblast. How does this hurt Obama ? In your very very small world, does Sikorski draw new partnerships with Lavrov simply to spite Obama ?

Sikorski was a hawk of the first order for essentially - ever. Is he desperate because of one man or is he desperate because he has nothing left to call on in DC ? Obama, as y’all bumpkins like to point out, is without experience. He’s the new guy. Sikorski and Lavrov predate Obama by a decade at least - but according to the hayseed Kissinger Ogresdels - it’s the Kings fault !

And what message is Poland sending then ? That the present conservative government including Tusk is ready and willing to move closer to Moscow ? Seriously ? Moving closer to Merkel isn’t troubling enough ?

So where is Tusks conservative support in the House and Senate ? Where does Polands diaspora turn to for help ?

Why does Polands current right of center government feel it has to send a message to the country that has the largest ethnic Polish community on the planet ? Obama isn’t a king. The problem isn’t singular.

See map of Eastern-Centra; Europe http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jggPatUFKDU/T0CwEd8IeVI/AAAAAAAAAEI/60-stsaO7BM/s1600/Eastern_Europe_maps.jpg

The most serious problem for Eastern Europe is that the communications has for many many centuries gone the East-
West corridor, which bypasses the North-South corridor, roughly between the Baltic and the Black seas.
Both East and West has been interested to eliminate the idiosyncratic sovereignties of Eastern/Central Europe. This idiosyncracy is the East-Central Europes curse and blessing. For one, this is why Germany and Russia circumnavigated the Nord Stream http://eurodialogue.org/Nabucco-And-Nord-Stream-Pipelines-Map gas pipeline through the Baltic Sea and shut out not only Poland, but all of East-Central Europe.The same goes for the Nabucco gas pipeline.

East-Central Europe is no less a problem for the Western Europeans powers than it is for Moscow, re: how to dissolve the East-Central European blood clot. These powers are working on the dissolution of the clot no less hard than they are working on the blood clot of muslims countries. If the West (NATO) gets to control the countries stretching the belt from Lebanon to Pakistan, they will then turn serious attention the East-Central Europe. Right now they are satisfied in getting our nominal allegiance by praising us for our anti-communism, which I personally do not believe is all that wise to hang on to. [I tend to economic egalitarianism.] The problem of the East-Central European powers is lack of purpose, and/or the necessity to reset the compass to a north-south orientation, re Scandinavia (wean it off dependency on Central West powers) to the Black Sea by way of the former Lithuanian-Polish and Otoman Empire territories.

This necessitates for the East-Central European countries to formulate a vision of their own as a hegemony. I would suggest taking advantage of the current financial and business embraglio, exit the Euro and the EU, and establish their own EEU sphere of interests.

That is easier said than done. The Latvian foreign policy, in effect non-existent or totally submissive to NATO interests, will not change until the present government gang gets removed from office. This is a difficult task, but may occur nevertheless, because the present so-called pick up in business is surely doomed to be nothing but rhetoric in the relative near future.
If so, then Poland may play a pivotal role in the mentioned idiosyncratic network of nations (most of all, we do not want to dilute our own cultures, but find opportunities to build on a culturally already rich past). Of course, I support friendly relations with both East and West (no weaponized rockets), the goal being a new hegemony that begins in northern Scandinavia, arches southward (yes, Greece is an indispensable part) through Turkey to Iran, and then connects with the archipelago of Indonesia. In short, it is not in the interest of East-Central Europe to allow the West its presently planned incursion into the Muslim corridor.

Radical as it may seem, Latvia and Poland, both, need to exit NATO http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm if there is to develop some clear vision of their own. At the present it appears that the over-stretched West is more like the floating island of pumice off New Zealand and is not (for all the halabaloo) destined to become a hegemonic power.

Poland must ultimately rely on itself for its geopolitical strategy. So says George Friedman of Stratfor.
http://app.en25.com/e/es.aspx?s=1483&e=573905&elq=51436ac615b14c5e9c8e160f4c0d29fd
The same goes for Latvia, which has, to say the least (IMO), an extremely lazy government with regard to its foreign policy, never mind being informed about geopolitics.

In response to Stratfors article on the geopolitics of Poland, I have penned the following eletter to Stratfor:

Dear Sirs (In Particular George Friedman):

I would take your excellent overview of Poland’s geopolitical situation a step further by elaborating on the Intermarium concept.

The concept of an Intermarium Alliance is still the superior geopolitical solution not only for Poland, but all of the countries held within the bounds of the corridor between the Baltic and the Black seas.

However, in order to bring the concept to fruition, a number of events need to happen, which at this time seem a long way from being realized.

One of the first and most obvious obstacles are the Scandinavian countries with Sweden in the lead. The latter nation, led by its banking and business interests, is making strong advances into the Baltic region—as if to reestablish itself there after losing the Great Northern War in 1721 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Great_Northern_War_Part1.png/250px-Great_Northern_War_Part1.png .  The Swedish advantage is closely bound up with the economic situation in the Baltics.

From one point of view, it may be argued that by taking control of the future of the Baltic nations, the Scandinavian countries are building the first or northern leg of the Intermarium Alliance to then (later) link up with Poland, the Ukraine, and others.

On the other hand, paradoxically, the subjugation of the Balts by Swedish banking interests and, thus, delaying economic development of the Baltic countries (which again delays their governing and political circles from developing deeper perceptions of the interests of their peoples), fuels a Baltic form of reactionism. This reactionism, curiously enough, is an inheritance and a hand-me-down of U.S. McCarthyism which had many supporters among the post WW2 immigrants in the U.S. from the Baltic countries. It is this orientation which has seized political power in the post-Soviet Baltics, and which the Russians call—with considerable justification—fascist.

While the Baltic fascist orientation strongly supports NATO (and all of its panicky military ventures due to the ongoing collapse of Western financial and economic establishments), it also plays into the hands of the Russian interests, particularly notable in Latvia. That is to say, the Baltic nations are separatist oriented, and, therefore, ipso facto are and are likely to continue to be sabotaging any attempt to renew and extend an Intermarium Alliance even if it is in their best long term interest.

What to do? Certainly this is a difficult question to answer. However, if Stratfor’s analysis is correct in judging Russia as militarily weak (and therefore unlikely to militarily threaten Poland or the Baltic nations in the near term), then it should not be impossible (in other words, there is time) to consider that the nations that may in the future form the Intermarium Alliance, with Poland in the lead, exit NATO. Such a move will certainly take pressure off Russia from the West, at the same time allowing (putting pressure on) all potential Intermarium Alliance nations to start taking themselves seriously and beginning to conference.

While a unilateral exit by Poland from NATO may come as a surprise, it certainly cannot be considered illogical. It will also put pressure on the Baltic countries to reconfigure their foreign policies.

Incidentally, my maternal grandfather, Karlis Ozols (Latvia’s ambassador to the USSR, 1923-1929) was an advocate of the Intermarium Alliance.

Sincerely, Eso Anton Benjamins
aka Jaņdžs

Some interesting commentary (at the link below) that reflects on some of the posts above, regarding the “Intermari Alliance” as presented by Statfor and the cause of the collapse of the towers on 9/11 as presented by the arguments of an officer-engineer attached to the Nuclear intelligence branch of the former Soviet military. It also relates to the question of whether the South Bridge in Riga is equipped with an “engineering device” spoken of by the engineer, and if there is such a device: of just what material is the device made of?

If the Latvian government believes that repression of public discussions (on television and internet portals) of its policies is successful, because of its methods of “psychologizing” the issues (“everything in Latvia is getting better and better with each passing day”), the recent whistling and booing that ensued at the Leader of the Unity Party at a hockey game gives a populist counter argument in populist terms. The leadership of said party is well known for its verbosity, and absence of example of leadership, unless it is overt passivity to external (not Russian) political and policy pressures.

The link below, re “Mainstreaming of the fringe….”“, actually does a nice job fringing the alleged Latvian Mainstream,
certainly spot on regarding Latvian government propaganda propagated by so-called “media”, known in another era as the “Press” or News.

I suggest you read the link beginning at paragraph 6, beginning with the words: “....Psychologizing dissent didn’t work in the Soviet Union….”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-mainstreaming-of-the-fringe-why-psychologizing-911-dissent-is-not-working.html

Just as a side comment, I would not suggest Russia (or anyone) is justified in any manner to call any aspects of Latvia, past or present, fascist (capital or small “F”). There is a difference between introspection and self-inflicted wounding. Just saying.