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ZRP acīmredzot ir pret tautas saliedētību
 
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Posted: 14 October 2011 08:58 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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One of the Zatleristas big talking points both during the election and as a major reason for inviting Harmony Center to be a coalition member was to overcome the ethnic divide between Latvians and the Russian minority. Since ZRP has decided that the ministries with the big EU/EK subsidies are the ones they need to run, they have left the Culture Ministry (responsible for this issues) up for grabs. They do provide a qualifier that they hope to transfer this particular responsibility to the Education Ministry but I will believe this when I see it.
I guess for ZRP the next best thing is to trust this ministry to the Nationalists.
To paraphrase Ricky Ricardo, Valdi, you have some ‘splaining to do!

Jauno valdību veidojošās partijas piektdien pēc trīs stundu ilgām sarunām vienojās par amatu sadali nākamajā valdībā un publiski apliecināja, ka nekādu domstarpību par jaunās koalīcijas izveidi vairs neesot. Nedēļas nogalē koalīcijas partneri turpināšot sarunas pie valdības deklarācijas sagatavošanas, bet nākamtrešdien vai ceturtdien jauno valdību varētu apstiprināt.

Premjers Valdis Dombrovskis (V) žurnālistus informēja, ka Zatlera Reformu partijai tiks Saeimas priekšsēdētāja amats. ZRP priekšsēdis Valdis Zatlers apstiprināja, ka viņš būs ZRP kandidāts šim amatam. ZRP jaunajā valdībā būs arī izglītības un zinātnes ministra portfelis. Šim amatam, iespējams, varētu tikt virzīts bijušais prezidenta Stratēģiskās analīzes komisijas vadītājs Roberts Ķīlis. Iecerēts, ka Izglītības un zinātnes ministrija arī pārņems sabiedrības “integrācijas funkciju uz latviešu valodas pamata” no Kultūras ministrijas.

ZRP pārziņā būs arī Iekšlietu ministrija, kuras vadībai, iespējams, varētu tikt virzīts Rihards Kozlovskis, kā arī Ārlietu ministrija, kuras vadību ZRP varētu rosināt uzticēt bijušajam prezidenta kancelejas vadītājam Edgaram Rinkēvičam.


Šīs partijas pārziņā būs arī Vides aizsardzības un reģionālās attīstības ministrija, kuras vadībai, iespējams, varētu tikt virzīts līdzšinējais ZRP premjera amata kandidāts Edmunds Sprūdžs, kā arī Ekonomikas ministrija. Par šīs ministrijas potenciālo vadītāju pagaidām izskan pretrunīga informācija.

“Vienotības” pārziņā būs premjera amats, kam tiek virzīts Dombrovskis, Finanšu ministrija, ko varētu turpināt vadīt Andris Vilks, Labklājības ministrija, kuras vadību varētu uzticēt līdzšinējai deputātei Ilzei Viņķelei, Aiszradzības ministrija, ko varētu turpināt vadīt līdzšinējais ministrs Artis Pabriks, Zemkopības ministrija, ko varētu vadīt bezpartejiskā kandidāte Laimdota Straujuma, kā arī Veselības ministrija, par kuras potenciālo vadītāju šobrīd nav informācijas.

Nacionālās apvienības pārziņā varētu būt Kultūras ministrija un neoficiāli izskanējis, ka šo ministriju varētu vadīt Inese Laizāne, Tieslietu ministrija, ko varētu vadīt Baiba Broka. VL-TB/LNNK arī pienāksies VARAM parlamentārā sekretāra amats, kā arī Veselības ministrijas parlamentārā sekretāra amats.

Tāpat partijas vienojušās, ka Satiksmes ministra amatam tiks virzīts bezpartejisks kandidāts, kas, iespējams, varētu būt bijušais ārlietu ministrs Aivis Ronis. Par viņa kandidatūru solidāru atbildību uzņemas ZRP un “Vienotība”.

Koalīcijas partijas arī vienojušās, ka pie Saeimas Izglītības, kultūras un zinātnes komisijas tiks izveidota Valstiskās audzināšanas apakškomisija, ko vadīs Nacionālās apvienības pārstāvis. Savukārt Pilsonības likuma izpildes komisija tiks pārveidota par Sabiedrības saliedētības komisiju.

Tā kā ar ministru amatu kandidātiem vēlas iepazīties arī prezidents, pagaidām ministru kandidatūras oficiāli netiek nosauktas.

Kā norādīja politiķi, tikšanās laikā arī pārrunātas līdzšinējās domstarpības un tās esot kliedētas.  “Vienojāmies, ka partijas respektē to dokumentu, ko ir parakstījušas – vienošanos par reformu un tiesiskuma koalīcijas izveidi un respektē arī šo koalīcijas modeli. Par šo mums ir pilnīgi skaidra vienošanās, “ sacīja Dombrovskis. Savukārt Zatlers norādīja, ka “tieši tādēļ sēdējām pie šī galda, lai panāktu vienošanos un parakstītu šo dokumentu, ka esam gatavi tālāk strādāt kopā un izprotam katras partijas nostādnes un ir arī kopīga izpratne par šiem dokumentiem, ko līdz šim esam parakstījuši. “

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Posted: 14 October 2011 06:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Poor collaborators… Where are you without your Russian puppet-masters?

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Posted: 14 October 2011 09:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Talcinieks - 14 October 2011 06:20 PM

Poor collaborators… Where are you without your Russian puppet-masters?

Bob, is that the best you can do?

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Posted: 15 October 2011 06:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Into,
Since you are seem so familiar with the politicians of SC, I have listed the elected individuals so that you can take them one-by-one and share everything that you know about them.  Your disappointment seems so great that the people you apparently know so well and trust so much to join hands with all Latvians to sing “Dievs Sveti Latviju” on the upcoming Nov 18 and start making repeated visits and significant donations to the Museum of the Occupations of Latvia have been misperceived.  Maybe you can start with your favorites and those you think are the most worthy of your trust. 

Harmony Centre
Valērijs Agešins (Kurzeme)
Jānis Ādamsons (Vidzeme)
Boriss Cilevičs (Rīga)
Irina Cvetkova (Rīga)
Sergejs Dolgopolovs (Vidzeme)
Andrejs Elksniņš (Kurzeme)
Marjana Ivanova–Jevsejeva (Latgale)
Aleksandrs Jakimovs (Latgale)
Viktors Jakovļevs (Vidzeme)
Nikolajs Kabanovs (Rīga)
Andrejs Klementjevs (Rīga)
Ivans Klementjevs (Vidzeme)
Jeļena Lazareva (Latgale)
Igors Meļņikovs (Rīga)
Sergejs Mirskis (Rīga)
Vladimirs Nikonovs (Latgale)
Ņikita Ņikiforovs (Rīga)
Vitālijs Orlovs (Zemgale)
Igors Pimenovs (Rīga)
Sergejs Potapkins (Rīga)
Vladimirs Reskājs (Zemgale)
Ivans Ribakovs (Latgale)
Dmitrijs Rodionovs (Latgale)
Artūrs Rubiks (Rīga)
Raimonds Rubiks (Latgale)
Aleksandrs Sakovskis (Vidzeme)
Jānis Tutins (Latgale)
Jānis Urbanovičs (Rīga)
Ivars Zariņš (Zemgale)
Mihails Zemļinskis (Rīga)
Igors Zujevs (Rīga)

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Posted: 15 October 2011 07:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Ambersun and Talcinieks/Roberts,
The point of this post was that ZRP, in spite of their claims and promises to be a qualitatively different political party, seem to be falling well short of this standard by which they judge other parties. The issue of unifying the nation was right up there with ousting the oligarchs. If this was so important to ZRP, why are they readily giving the ministry responsible for this to the NA?
I’m not sure bringing Harmony into a coalition is a good idea and have tried to make that clear in other posts. On the other hand, the ethnic minorities need to be integrated into the society. It has been twenty years, not a lot to show in this regard for all of that time. How can this ethnic minority and not necessarily Harmony Center be engaged instead of ignored?
Now to throw more wood on the fire. The change from “okupacija bija, okupacija nav” to basically “No single ethnic group is responsible for the occupation or it’s legacy” I think is proper and necessary. There were and are individuals, both Russian and Latvian that can and should be held responsible for the occupation. Otherwise, why should Rubiks have Ever been jailed? In addition, this still means that Russia, as the inheritor of all that was the USSR, can and should still be held accountable.
Also, this practice of playing the ethnic card is how Harmony stays relevant to their electorate, by frightening them. Is it any better when nationalists do likewise?

As to Bob’s infantile attempt to brand me a collaborator, whatever.

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Into et al.,
“Also, this practice of playing the ethnic card is how Harmony stays relevant to their electorate, by frightening them. Is it any better when nationalists do likewise”

Opposition to taking Harmony into the ruling coalition was also among the members of ZRP.  They declared that they had been at the ” barikades” and that a coalition with SC is out of the question.  This refers to the traitor (notiesatais latviešu tautas nodevejs) and SC member A. Rubiks in particular and has nothing to do with a “russian minority”.  When SC aligned with the Rubik crowd it essentially told your “nationalists” up yours, and now SC is whining about not being taken into the ruling coalition.

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Posted: 15 October 2011 08:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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I don’t remember any aligning with Rubiks. I remember Ushakov saying the socialists wouldn’t be part of any coalition if Harmony party (not the party block) gets in.

PS In fact, Urbanovics in an interview to Radio Baltcom recently said that Harmony has compromised on many different issues—including its friendship with the socialists. So now they have “a moral right” to be outraged.

PPS Saying that the ethnicity didn’t play role in the coalition talks and some Latvian (and Russian) politicians’ reaction is just plain wrong. I know of a few people within ZRP who aren’t happy with the nationalists’ being in the coalition. And both Dombrovskis and Zatlers publicly told Raivitis Dzintars off for suggesting that it’s okay for his party members to participate in the March 16 events.

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Aleksejs et al,
“I don’t remember any aligning with Rubiks. I remember Ushakov saying the socialists wouldn’t be part of any coalition if Harmony party (not the party block) gets in.”

The traitor (notiesatais latviešu tautas nodevejs) Rubiks was elected to the EU representation with the backing of SC.  Did not hear any objections from Ushakovs at that time.

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Posted: 15 October 2011 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Aleksejs et al.,
“PPS Saying that the ethnicity didn’t play role in the coalition talks and some Latvian (and Russian) politicians’ reaction is just plain wrong. I know of a few people within ZRP who aren’t happy with the nationalists’ being in the coalition”.

Are you sure you mean nationalists and not Nationalists ?

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Posted: 15 October 2011 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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And? What do elections two years ago that have to do with the new coalition? Certainly if an hour is a long time in politics, two years would be even longer.

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Posted: 15 October 2011 09:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Aleksejs et al.,
“And? What do elections two years ago that have to do with the new coalition? “

Ask those who were at the ” barikades”.

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Posted: 15 October 2011 09:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Are you sure you mean nationalists and not Nationalists ?

It depends on what you meant by using the same word in this text. When SC aligned with the Rubik crowd it essentially told your “nationalists” up yours, and now SC is whining about not being taken into the ruling coalition.

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Bruno the Lett - 15 October 2011 09:24 AM

Aleksejs et al.,
“And? What do elections two years ago that have to do with the new coalition? “

Ask those who were at the ” barikades”.

Visu labu,

We should go back that far? Incidentally, today might be that day when Latvians spat on those Russians who were against Rubiks and stood on the barricades. Today is the 20th anniversary of non-citizenship…

PS And I was asking you, since you were the one who made the claim that you did.

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Aleksejs et al.,
“PS And I was asking you, since you were the one who made the claim that you did”

What do nationalists in ZRP mean to you ?
As to events being too far back.  The traitor(( notiesātais latviešu tautas nodevēj) A. Rubiks is in the ranks of SC to remaind us of the past events.

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Posted: 16 October 2011 05:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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Rīga, 16.okt., LETA. Seši Zatlera reformu partijas (ZRP) biedri šodien izplatījuši paziņojumu par izstāšanos no politiskā spēka un atbalstu Valda Dombrovska (V) jaunajai valdībai.
No ZRP nolēmuši izstāties 11.Saeimā ievēlētie Klāvs Olšteins, Elīna Siliņa, Gunārs Rusiņš, Jānis Upenieks, Viktors Valainis un Jānis Junkurs, ņemot vērā “nedemokrātisko lēmumu pieņemšanu un savstarpējo neuzticēšanos”.
Šīs personas nolēmušas veidot neatkarīgu deputātu grupu 11.Saeimā.
“Uzskatām, ka partijā pastāvošie lēmumu pieņemšanas mehānismi ir klajā pretrunā ar pašas ZRP sludinātajiem godīguma, atklātības un līdzdalības principiem. Ja sākotnēji ZRP un tās programmu veidošanas process bija izteikti demokrātisks, ar daudzu profesionāļu piedalīšanos, tad šobrīd varu ZRP ir atklāti uzurpējusi šaura cilvēku grupa jeb tā dēvētais “partijas kodols”,” teikts sešu nu jau bijušo ZRP biedru paziņojumā.
Viņi apgalvo, ka ZRP iekšienē bez partijas valdes un jaunievēlētās 11.Saeimas deputātu frakcijas pastāv vēl kāds vai kādi publiski nezināmi varas centri, kuros lēmumi tiek pieņemti voluntāri, bet pēc tam uzspiesti pārējiem ZRP biedriem.

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RIGA (Reuters) - One of the three parties planning to form a new coalition government in Latvia was dealt a blow on Sunday when almost a quarter of its legislators defected, although the prime minister said he would plow on with coalition talks with the party.

Current Prime Minister Valdis Dombrovskis is hoping to return as head of government in a coalition of his Unity party with the Reform Party of former President Valdis Zatlers and a nationalist bloc.

But six members of the 22 members of parliament from Zatlers’ party split off Sunday due to internal squabbling and said in a statement they would form their own parliamentary group.

In theory, that leaves the new Dombrovskis coalition with only 50 seats in the 100 seat parliament. However, Dombrovskis said he expected the six defectors to continue to support the planned new government.

“They (the six) are ready to work for this coalition model. That is grounds for further negotiations (on a coalition),” Dombrovskis said on TV late Sunday.

But the disagreements in the party set to be a core member of the coalition raised questions about the planned government’s stability after negotiations which have already been difficult.

The three political groups only agreed last Monday to form a coalition, pushing aside a party traditionally backed by Latvia’s large Russian minority, which had hoped to be in the coalition.

The Russian party came first in a snap election on September 17, thought it was well short of a majority with 31 seats.

Dombrovskis has said he aims to keep Latvia on the path of fiscal austerity with a view to adopt the euro in 2014.

Dombrovskis has not been formally nominated yet by President Andris Berzins to form a government, though that is expected to happen this week.

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