Hello Tom,

Tom: I don’t know that man has a “dilemma.” ” A better word Tom would be “condition”  I was wrong with my wording!) We look
for love, learning, and survival… life. Sin, as I assume you mean it, is a
human construct that we wrap a god around in order to justify hating what
we hate.

Robert:  If the following is not a “Man’s condition”  then what is it? We live in a world that is filled with evil and wrong.  Are the daily newspapers filled only with nice stories about people loving and helping each other? Does the news on television show a world in which everything is happy and peaceful? We live in a world that has a very real need for policemen, soldiers, judges, and prisons. Every car is equipped with locks on the doors. Homes are built so that doors and windows can be locked. All the evidence points to the unmistakable fact that we live in a world that has been spoiled and polluted and defiled by SIN. What do you want to call it if not SIN? I’m sure “Condition” is the correct word and not “dilemma”.

THE BIBLE: “Every one that doeth sin doeth also lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.” (3:4); “All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.” (5:17). Living in disregard for God’s law and in nonconformity with His standard of what is right results in sin…. every single time.

Tom: We look for love, learning, survival… life.

Robert: I can only assume you mean the group to which you give your allegiance? Do we not all seek after love, life and survival?

THE BIBLE: God is love, and Christ is the expression of love…… “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. ….Jesus said: I am life…!

Tom: Sin, as I assume you mean it, is a human construct that we wrap a god around in order to justify hating what we hate?

Robert: The Dictionary definition is: Transgression of divine law. Any act regarded as such a transgression, especially willful or deliberate violation of some religious or moral principle. Any reprehensible or regrettable action, behaviour. To offend against a principle, standard.

THE BIBLE: All unrighteousness is sin. “to go beyond a set boundary or limit.” “to miss the mark.”.

Tom:  How do you know that you (and other Christians) are right and Muslims, Jews, Pagans etc. are wrong?

Robert: I have never made the statement: Christians are right and Muslims, Jews, Pagans etc are wrong.
But, I do know that Christ alone is right! The reasons have been expressed earlier.

THE BIBLE: “Thou shalt have none other god before Me”    .” for One is God, One also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus” There is none other name under heaven whereby we must be saved—- The name of Jesus”.  “Every knee shall eventually bow to Christ Jesus”

Robert:  Tom what is the source of your sustenance?  Who is your god?    As for me my sustenance is the Word of God! Why?  “Let God be true and every man a Liar…

Not to loose sight of topic…................

There can’t be life after death, because death means death.  Beigas.
Actually, it’s a convinience to some…...........................

peter B
 
Not to loose sight of topic…................

ROBERT: You are right Peter B. It is so easy to get carried away with many questions, and I love the exercise of trying to answer them!

PETER: There can’t be life after death, because death means death.

ROBERT:  I think we need to define “death” to be able to really clarify this issue.
Death means “a cessation of communication”. When anything ceases to communicate with its environment it is considered, dead.
The Word of God shows us very clearly that Adam and Eve in the garden would die the moment they ate of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Immediately upon eating they died, they were cut off from God due to disobedience. In a word their human spirit died. We know this by the fact that Christ, through His death and resurrection provided the means for man to once again be made alive in his spirit upon regeneration.
Then of course there is the fact of Resurrection. Christ, resurrected on the first day of the week following three days in Hades/ Paradise. the place down in the centre of the earth. Death could not hold Him. Further, He wrested the keys of death from him who held them, that is Lucifer/Satan the devil. The Bible confirms that He (Christ) is resurrection, His own words: “I am the resurrection and the life, whosoever liveth and believe th in Me shall never never die”. Further we have the account of those who die and the place where they await the judgment.
In that place there are two compartments, the pleasant section and the not so pleasant section. The dead are still able to communicate with the others among them. (Luke 16:19-31).
Jesus Christ is Eternal Life. Eternal Life is the Life of God which is eternal. To believe into Christ is to receive Eternal Life.
Thank God there is an eternal purpose in Christ, whereby we will be joined Him and be His beloved forever!

“The consummation of God’s organic salvation is the New Jerusalem, The universal incorporation of Divinity and humanity. The processed and consummated Triune God incorporated with His redeemed, regenerated, sanctified, renewed, transformed, conformed and glorified tripartite elect. Praise the Lord we shall live forever

PETER: Actually, it’s a convinience to some…......

ROBERT:Thank God there is an eternal purpose in Christ, whereby we will be joined Him and be His beloved forever!

“The consummation of God’s organic salvation is the New Jerusalem, The universal incorporation of Divinity and humanity. The processed and consummated Triune God incorporated with His redeemed, regenerated, sanctified, renewed, transformed, conformed and glorified tripartite elect. Praise the Lord we shall live forever.

It was not so convenient for the thousands who have been tortured and burned at the stake for their stand for the Truth, by the religious people during the dark ages, in fact all those who would live Godly in Christ Jesus must suffer persecution, as the genuine ones always have.

Hello Tom,

Tom: I don’t know that man has a “dilemma.”

Robert: I am happy to be corrected by you Tom. The word “dilemma’ is not correct, rather the word “condition”,
ie: man’s condition

Robert

A fairly recent notice of a scientific study that may possibly relate to the topic:
http://drboli.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/advertisement-296/

Life implies a functioning apparatus.  When that apparatus ceases to function and to communicate, it is considered dead.  For example, a computer with a program can be considered alive in some way because it can function and communicate.  If we store the program on a diskette and turn off the computer, the system dies.  Yet by turning on the computer or transferring the program to another computer, function and communication can be restored.  So, in principle, there can be life after death.

In principle, inanimate objects never had life, per se, Mr. Sesktator…...............
Battery doesn’t die, it fails to hold charge.

For a materialist, your objection has no validity.  For him, there is no distinction between animate and inanimate life.  Animate life for the materialist is just a special case of a general principle.  Practically all materialists believe that computers will eventually acquire consciousness, if they have not done so already.

Another analogy of death in the liquidation decision of an organization.  Before the decision, there was a unity, a purpose, a future. After the decision, physically nothing has changed, only all the intangibles have disappeared.  All that is left are memories and, possibly, some archives.

In some religions, God harvests the thoughts, the memories, the souls of the dead, and uses them for His own purposes.  Those pleasing to God are preserved, the others discarded or recycled, purified, and refined in the fires of Hell.

There is possibility of astral travelling, evidence of an invisible finer body in the physicaal body. The best is use sleep, because of during a sleep the astral body go out itself. Tested regularly travel in the mind before falling asleep. Preferably in a well-known places for verification.
And tere are practices like magick evocations, proving the existence of that power the world, angeĺs, demons, pagan gods, natural spirits… but the evocations of human spirits is a problematic, so I think that after death is majority a reaincarnation and people could be in next life born in many various worlds. Eastern texts of Yoga, like Shiva samhita says, that people who takes a supernatural powers siddhis may have born in worlds of a natural spirirs, or angels and gods, or demons too.

Why limit re-incarnation to Earth?  We could be traveling to other planets, other galaxies, other dimensions to re-incarnate!

hello sir,

A survey of 2,060 people showed 53 per cent believe in life after death, 55 per cent believe in heaven and 70 per cent believe in the human soul.

The study carried out between October and November last year for the public theology think tank Theos also showed nearly four in 10, or 39 per cent, believe in ghosts and more than a quarter (27 per cent) believe in reincarnation.

Voting is no way to ascetain a physical truth! Those are oversimplification of an ignorant population.  Ask them what nonlocality, wave-particle duality, or the principle of uncertainty is, and then in amusement contemplate the answers!  Of course, there is no evidence against immortality or a Creator, but a thousand years from now our descendants will be amused at the beliefs prevalent today.