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Raidījums: Latvija ir populārākā sekstūrisma valsts

Franču producentu kompānijas “TAC Presse” veidoto filmu par Latviju redzējuši jau vairāki miljonu skatītāju Beļģijā un Francijā. Viens no filmas veidotājiem Alekss Vellers norāda, ka Latvijā ir daudz vieglāk atrast skaistas meitenes. Tās esot lētākas. Kā iespējams redzēt filmā – lētie avioreisi, lēts alu un lētas meitenes ir tas, ka nodrošina Rīgas popularitāti, svētdien ziņo TV3 raidījums “Nekā personīga”.

I never thought I would see an upside to inflation, but perhaps this is it. Once prices go up on everything, Riga won’t be so interesting for this particular type of tourist.

How does the tawdry, loud, overbearing, obscene, and inescapable sex-tourism in Latvia fit in with a population and religious community espousing such conservative “religious” and “family” values?  The religious heads in Latvia have issued statements of intolerance for homosexuals and homosexuality but have we seen some comparable intolerance “moral guidance” for heterosexuals and heterosexuality?  Maybe prostituiton is just a “normal” heterosexual practice/sin, something like occasional adultery, nothing worth getting worked up about.  Anyway, who wants to be seen as a prude who can’t see the normalcy of heterosexual male “fun with the cheap Latvian ‘meitenes.’ “ It’s an entertainment job every Latvian father must want for his beautiful heterosexual daughter.

Balta naca tautu meita,
Ka ar sniegu apsnigusi;
Nav ar sniegu apsnigusi,
Nak ar savu tikuminu.........

A Latvian maiden dressed in white,
Appears to be covered in snow;
She is not covered in snow,
She is covered in virtue.

( Bear the translation)

At least these girls don’t parade around Riga, openly flounting their “prostitute pride,” and insisting on their “rights”!

The most beautiful girls in the world parade through Vecriga every morning of every work day of the week! They are NOT in the “trades”. The “players” are seen in every country of Europe ,but they are not as attractive.

:The most beautiful girls in the world parade through Vecriga every morning of every work day of the week! They are NOT in the “trades”. The “players” are seen in every country of Europe ,but they are not as attractive. “

It is the blue eyed brunettes that get me.  I have asked them in the streetcars in Riga
if they consider themselves to be brunettes or blondes,
Visu labu,

The women who grace the streets of Riga have no shortage of pride, and as for their ‘rights’, they make full use of them in every way that they can. Some are even deputies in the parliament and CEO’s of prosperous new companies. While the yellow press likes to talk about the old fashioned type of ‘working woman’, the business press is filled with the accomplishments of the new breed.

Spectator writes:  “At least these girls don’t parade around Riga, openly flounting their “prostitute pride” and insisting on their “rights”! 

Oh?!  You know this from personal experience, do you, Spectator?! ( I couldn’t resist!!!!)

To you fashion buffs out there and it would hardly be the males on this forum, although you never know!  Latvian girls, women, being a very artistically, talented people have a special knack for knowing just how to put clothes together, for looking very chic even when they have little to work with in terms of monetary assets and that’s when real creativity comes into play.  And as I write I wonder if the ‘Ridzenieces’ are still as skimply clad as I remember.

And I can understand Amber’s outrage--I wouldn’t want to see my daughter, my sisters engaging in self-degrading acts, for Riga, Latvia to be known as the sex tourist capital of the world.  And yet, at the same time prostitution was/is/will remain one of the oldest professions…

But, hats off to Ojars, who has a knack for knowing how to end a thread in a postive, upbeat way and to our ‘skaistas meitenes’, our hard-working, entrepreneurs!

Irena

Thanks Irene

Us males who live in Latvia have to make nice with the ladies because they not only dress better and look prettier, but are also smarter than most of us men. There’s this old saying, ‘Behind every successful man is a good woman.’ Here we can vary it to. ‘Behind every successful minister is a ministerial bureaucracy with a 60-70% female workforce. The men go into private business to make money, buy obnoxious cars and wear expensively bad clothes.

Are young women still skimpily dressed here? Well, it has been rather warm here. Mom always says one should dress appropriately for the weather, and Riga is sometimes known as The Hottest City in the North. (Did anyone see the NYTimes Travel Section a few weeks back? Riga is one of their top 5 ‘hot’ recommendations for quality-oriented bargain-hunting tourists. They also said that Riga has a burgeoning cultural class comparable to Berlin. Okay, so the NYT got one wrong; they haven’t noticed the inflation here.)

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ambersun - 02 June 2008 10:12 AM

How does the tawdry, loud, overbearing, obscene, and inescapable sex-tourism in Latvia fit in with a population and religious community espousing such conservative “religious” and “family” values?  The religious heads in Latvia have issued statements of intolerance for homosexuals and homosexuality but have we seen some comparable intolerance “moral guidance” for heterosexuals and heterosexuality?  Maybe prostituiton is just a “normal” heterosexual practice/sin, something like occasional adultery, nothing worth getting worked up about.  Anyway, who wants to be seen as a prude who can’t see the normalcy of heterosexual male “fun with the cheap Latvian ‘meitenes.’ “ It’s an entertainment job every Latvian father must want for his beautiful heterosexual daughter.

Ambersun, there’s no need to transpose American family values debate onto Latvia. People here are indeed different from Americans, thank God. Conservative people encourage heterosexual intercourse even if it is for the money. As I mentioned in the other thread, people don’t oppose the gay lifestyle, but it’s pride parade.

Heterosexual intercourse, they say, is natural and capable of serving a purpose of procreation. Homosexual intercourse, on the hand, is the opposite of that. The other distinction is propaganda. Most women who become prostitutes do it for the money and out of their own free will. Some are even law students at a university. The religious people who protested gay pride parade, it seems, would say that prostitutes do not go around and propagate their lifestyle to anyone they meet. And unlike being gay, you’d want to keep it to yourself that you’re a prostitute. You cannot come out of that hooker closet.

Although this isn’t exactly on topic, I thought I’d throw it in. Not too long ago a Latvian writer (wish I could remember who it was) proposed the theory that the Latvian national anthem is about propagation, i.e. a land where boys sing, girls blossom and then they all get together and frolic (dance) in joy. Like our dainas, the poetry of the anthem is laden with deep meanings. He claimed this interpretation of the anthem was actually quite a good thing and rather rare in the world, since many traditional national anthems deal with war, victory, glory, flags and other such national things. But in our anthem, we talk about boys and girls getting together and doing the fun things that make boys and girls feel good about themselves.

Then again, given the demographic situation in our country, it doesn’t appear that our citizens are taking the anthem seriously enough.

Jani is right around the corner. Boys will take girls into woods seeking a nonexistent fern flower and who knows nine months later we may have a spike in births....

“Conservative people encourage heterosexual intercourse even if it is for the money. ...Heterosexual intercourse, they say, is natural and capable of serving a purpose of procreation.”

A comment like the previous may reflect “normal belief” in Latvia among some of Latvia’s residents but such understanding about heterosexuality and ignorance about homosexuality makes me realize how much education needs to take place.  I will refrain from an answer that would be censored.  No wonder women in Latvia aren’t having babies!  Thank god, especially if the conception would occur during “normal intercourse” in prostitution.  Then the hard working, female law student/prostitute (- Why even go to law school when you already have a good job? -) would have to quit law school since the f#cking father would be long gone back to his “other normal” sex life in England.  I met some of the fun “boys” from Britain while staying in Vecriga who happily shared with me their euphoria about their holiday with Latvian “girls” while their wives were back home shopping.  How much fun.  Since I must not look like the self respecting, outspoken feminist I am, I guess I was an easy target for the blather of the boys who chose to join me at my table.  I told them exactly how they disrespect all women, including their wives and daughters (and then I also told them to learn Latvian :) ).  Yes, there’s nothing like a good woman for some Latvian, Brit, and other men: wife, mother, whore.

“Most women who become prostitutes do it for the money and out of their own free will. ”

Here’s a little dose of harsh reality for all those who think that prostitution is just normal heterosexual sex between gentlemen and free-will women. 

I have two wonderful gay friends - married, soon to be re-married in California - who adopted two fantastic children.  They adopted first an infant girl, the child of a drug-dependent prostitute mother.  The mother already had “given away” a couple of children who had been abandoned by the “fathers” with the speed of their sperm.  A short year later, the adoption agency contacted my friends asking if they wanted to adopt the baby boy born to this same hardworking woman (not a law student).  The “normal intercourse” sperm-spreaders were nowhere to be found and so the burden of this “victimless” crime fell to the deep-pockets and resources of the state of California to solve.  I essentially am paying for the “free will” of the mother-drug addict-prostitute and the “normal heterosexual fun with the Oldest Profession” of her Toms, Dicks, and Harrys.  The children were “hard to place” kids because they were born to a drug-dependent mother.  My two gay friends spent loving, endless hours “mothering and fathering” these beautiful children (now 6 and 7) through any of the drug problems their “Mom and Dads” had left to them with their loving acts of “normal intercourse” between a prostitute and her johns.

P.S.

I didn’t mean to neglect lesbians and their children.  While the gay men like Sister Boom Boom, summoned from obscurity by Roberts on the “praids” thread, were creating the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, many lesbians were already creating families with children.  Also, lesbians have for years been adopting the “hard to place” children that heterosexuals created and didn’t want to either raise or adopt.  Just like with heterosexual families, homosexual families are not perfect and all don’t last. 

It appears that most Latvians need to open their eyes to the complexity of the relationships around them and many Latvians need to stop being hypocritical about the sanctity of their “heterosexual procreation.” Wife abuse, female sex-slavery, child abuse and prostitution are in epedemic numbers and the main perpetrators of these crimes are heterosexual men.  You should care about that.  That might help the low birth rate.  Certainly defending prostituiton because at least it’s hetero not homo sex (or is it?) won’t help Latvia’s low birth rate.  Ask the women what would help, if you dare.  It just may require some changes on the part of men, the straight men. 

Also, among prostitutes are quite a few bisexual women and lesbians.  This is for the johns who think they may get “Pretty Woman” and live happily ever after.

I hope this doesn’t spoil anyone’s “Jani.”

ambersun - 05 June 2008 09:41 AM

“Conservative people encourage heterosexual intercourse even if it is for the money. ...Heterosexual intercourse, they say, is natural and capable of serving a purpose of procreation.”


A comment like the previous may reflect “normal belief” in Latvia among some of Latvia’s residents but such understanding about heterosexuality and ignorance about homosexuality makes me realize how much education needs to take place.  I will refrain from an answer that would be censored.  No wonder women in Latvia aren’t having babies! 

They most certainly are. Although death rate still exceeds birth rate, the trend is on the birth rate side. Ina few years time, those two will meet and then more babies will be born than people die. 

ambersun - 05 June 2008 09:41 AM

Thank god, especially if the conception would occur during “normal intercourse” in prostitution.  Then the hard working, female law student/prostitute (- Why even go to law school when you already have a good job? -) would have to quit law school since the f#cking father would be long gone back to his “other normal” sex life in England. 

Everything must be so simple in your little world, ambersun. Most students, if not all, work full-time as they attend school. It’s normal here. Students support not only themselves but other members of the family who for whatever reasons are unable to support themselves. This isn’t America, you know, where kids go to college, party-hardy, get jobs, marry, have kids, drive SUVs, etc. In fact, in Latvia you’re most likely to find young people working in positions - no pun intended - that would take them years to obtain if they were in the West. Most of the staff at the foreign ministry, for example, including the press secretary are not much older than 40.

ambersun - 05 June 2008 09:41 AM

I met some of the fun “boys” from Britain while staying in Vecriga who happily shared with me their euphoria about their holiday with Latvian “girls” while their wives were back home shopping. 

British boys don’t come as often any more. No pun intended there either. The beer is too expensive. On the other hand, there have been reports of Belgian prostitutes coming to Riga to make a living.

ambersun - 05 June 2008 09:41 AM

How much fun.  Since I must not look like the self respecting, outspoken feminist I am, I guess I was an easy target for the blather of the boys who chose to join me at my table.  I told them exactly how they disrespect all women, including their wives and daughters (and then I also told them to learn Latvian :) ).  Yes, there’s nothing like a good woman for some Latvian, Brit, and other men: wife, mother, whore.

I met a couple of girls last year after the Northern Ireland-Latvia soccer match. They assumed I didn’t understand them. One of them at least expressed a great joy to provide entertainment to Irish fans, to allow to drift away from their meaningless western life full of football and beer. She sounded like she was proud of that. What would a feminist tell her?