Sveicu visus īstos latviešus Tautas Nacionālās Apziņas Dienā.  Sevišķi sveicieni tiem, kas ar mani auga 15. maija saulē, atceroties tos, kas savu dzīvi veltija Latviešu Tautas Mužībai.

L. L.

Kam drosme ir
Un goda prāts
Un skaidra sirds,
Kam tauta tuvāka
Par draugu stāv,
Tas nāk man lidz,
Tas nāk man lidz,
Lai mužam godā, slavā
Zeltu Latvija.

Karlis Ulmanis (1877 - 1942.)

Mr L L,

I am interested in your sharing more about the Latvians “kas ar mani auga 15. maija saulē. We lack first-hand accounts here of that time.

If you don’t mind.

Miss Ambersun –

Thank you for your interest in my past.  Short time ago we read DisaW’s questions about the old Latvia and tried to recreate “Dzivi Saulainaja Latvija”.  We did not get very far, did we?

This forum is tainted with Lumumba-wisdoms and berkely brownie “why can’t we all get along”.  I do have the impression that “Latvijas Tauta” is hell bend to milk what there is to milk and sell the rest, including their souls to “One World” paradise. (Paradise? Where did I hear this promise before?)

We regurgitate “Latvijas Tautas” sacred right to celebrate their ninth of May subjugation of the same people who now allow them to stay as colonists and exploit the blood and sweat of those rebuilding the honor and welfare of “Latvju Tauta”

Where are the parades, speeches, festivities in recognition that the sequence of “Latviesu tautas apzina” is direct result of awakening on May 15th, 1934 ?

There is none that I know , remembering the Day, and the “Saimnieks” that made Latvia a Latvian homeland - - -

Mr. L. L.

Mr L L,
I recently saw the Estonian-American film, “The Singing Revolution.” This film beautifully and movingly conveys what I think is a Baltic essence of being and patriotism: a healthy, deep, enduring, and fierce love for one’s people, country, culture and history. I saw it with a Lithuanian friend who also was pleasantly surprised and impressed by the quality of the film and story.  The film has been held over twice in my area and is obviously striking a human chord beyond its specifically Estonian material. 

From the “The Singing Revolution” website: 

“Imagine the scene in ‘Casablanca’ in which the French patrons sing ‘La Marseillaise’ in defiance of the Germans, then multiply its power by a factor of thousands, and you’ve only begun to imagine the force of ‘The Singing Revolution’.”

Matt Zoller Seitz, The New York Times

Most people don’t think about singing when they think about revolution. But song was the weapon of choice when Estonians sought to free themselves from decades of Soviet occupation. “The Singing Revolution” is an inspiring account of one nation’s dramatic rebirth. It is the story of humankind’s irrepressible drive for freedom and self-determination[my bold].

I hope DisaW has an opportunity to see this film.  I know that the “berkeley brownies” of my Berkeley area have been going to see it.  I encountered a number of them in the audience in San Francisco.

I’m just wondering ...are democrats considered Berkley brownies because they’re certainly not republicans, the party of the’ right’ that my parents always voted for, as did most’good’ trimda Latvians.  How can you spot a Berkley brownie in a movie theater or say...a mall?  Are there strict rules about this?  Or is it ‘kinda’ loose, subjective?  Just what or who are the Berkley brownies?

Someday, Mr. L.L. you will have to give us your all-inclusive definition.  In the interim, I hope you have the opportunity to see the ‘Singing Revolution.’

Visu Labu,

Irena (and please feel to call me by my first name without ‘Mrs.’, ‘Kundze’--I wouldn’t have it any other way with or without the toast for ‘tu bralibas’.

Miss ambersun -

Your introduction of this theme here makes me think.
The Estonian-American film, “The Singing Revolution” I will most probably not see, be it someone sends me a DVD on my birthday :)

I am confused about the “Estonian-American” designation. Is this the name of the company producing this film, or is it just a preface to denote an anti-American minority, such as African-Americans, Latino-Americans, or similar?  In latter case, would it be proper to designate many of the films produced in Hollywood as “Jewish-American” films?

As I am unfamiliar with details of “The Singing Revolution”, I can comment only in generalities.

The comparison with 1942 movie “Everybody Comes to Rick’s.” later known as “Casablanca” is somewhat lame.

Morocco was not occupied by German Forces but under the terms of armistice was Free French Territory.  So the singing of” The War Song of the Army of the Rhine” by Jean-Claude Rouget de Lisle , also known as Marseillaise, was legal and proper for the country.  German detachment being away from home for who knows how long, relaxing in apparently only decent European watering place, naturally started a patriotic “Die Wacht am Rhein”. We tend to forget that not only Balts but also Germans were a very singing nation. 

In retrospect, considering that those were Free French Military Forces who counter-attacked British-American WW II landings in French Africa, and created considerable casualties, one cannot view the singing incident as expression of resistance.  It was, the way I see, just a rude confrontation against uninvited guests.

As for berkeley-brownies watching “The Singing Revolution”, would they not be befuddled why the Balts did not kiss-and-make-up with the legal rulers dispensing comradeship and equality by calling everybody by their first names?

Mr. L. L.

LL get off my internet and go back to your assisted living before you get transffered to to dredded A unit.

kasperle -

get off YOUR internet ?  Your name – algore – ?

If I may, I shall not comment about “toast for ‘tu bralibas’” for fear of being accused of moralizing.

The peoples recognizable by their brainwashed brain condition are “berkeley brownies” (all lower case letters) While this product of human-engineering apparently started with University of California in Berkeley, by now it is spread universally.

According to one of its foremost samples – Billy Clinton – it shall make in 100 years all the humanity without race, without defined ethics, all with the same skin color, with the same behavior, with no distinctions from one to another. 

This is the same Clinton who spent his presidential time trying to define the word “is” against the assumed understanding of the word “is”.  Remember?

“ . . . you will have to give us your …” sounds pretty harsh.  Is it a command I have to respond with “Yes Sir/Ma’am?”

What do you yourself think the definition should be?

Mr. L. L.

i nipped a berkley brownie once. couldn’t drive home till the next morning.

Mr L L,
I was not trying to complicate either of our lives by mentioning “The Singing Revolution.” The film was a pleasant relief for me from the Latvian-bashing and stupid “kashchiba” found on LOL.  It features the Estonians, and in small measure all Balts, as harmonious, positive, and attactive people worth supporting.  The Estonian-heritage couple, Estonian-Americans, who produced the film provide much information on their website about their backgrounds and what inspired them to make this film.  Anyone interested can go to the website and get the full story.  “The Singing Revolution” shows some “Baltic sunshine” that I thought you were also evoking, Mr L L. 

I’m glad non-Balts are choosing to see this film and reviewers who publish in major newspapers and periodicals will put their spin on what they got out of it.  To mention “Casablanca” is a device to connect to an audience that may not otherwise even consider the film.  I can accept that since I want people to know more about the Estonians - and Latvians and Lithuanians.  I don’t expect historical accuracy from any film or the “review chatter” surrounding it.  But I would be thoroughly pleased to know that many people are seeing the “The Singing Revolution” - and “The Soviet Story” - since I know that they are not reading THE LATVIAN SAGA, ESTONIA AND THE ESTONIANS, THE BALTIC STATES, and anything by Norman Davies, including the massively comprehensive WWII tome, NO SIMPLE VICTORY. 

It’s not some “berkeley-brownie” notion of “international peace and friendship” that is wrong but the flaw lies with the human beings who can’t seem to “do unto others as they would have done unto themselves.” You don’t invade the home of another.  You don’t impose your “ideology of brotherhood” and the barabarity of false “braliba” on the Balts for fifty years and then not acknowledge your transgressions against humanity once your crimes are exposed.  You don’t live in denial - but you purge your conscience of your crimes.  You acknowledge your crime against another, ask for forgiveness, and make restitution before you “demand” acknowledgment of your own humanity in kind.  I would hope that anyone supporting “braliba” would also support this.  It’s the human way to be and it can be religious.  (Religious people may want to read more by Karen Armstrong.) It’s about the “practice” versus the “belief” of “braliba.”

I’m much less concerned with Bill Clinton than I am with current leaders, foremost among them George Bush with his “pre-emptive” war and Vladimir Putin with his denial of history.

Mr. L.L. you did not answer my question re: “berkley brownies” and are they democrats.  However, I suppose you did not want to hurt Amber’s feelings, since you seem to derive such pleasure, ‘gandarijums’ and heartily support her in her battles with your favorite Lumumba University nemesis.  I admit I put it out there partly to razz Dzintarsaulite a bit about her spotting some Berkley brownies during the ‘Singing Revolution’.  I figured you and her were on to something that somehow must have eluded me all these years--and she, even voting democratic, for Billy’s Billary, no less, My, My!

Incidentally, I even googled Berkley brownies (not berkley brownies) and came up with several responses--all from a certain Mr. L.L. from Latviansonline; other than that, there were no leads.  Oh, I did ask my dear mother,BTW and she said, “Nu laikam tie ir ‘radikali’"--guess that’s it in a nutshell.

I can find humor in this, your very own special coinage where you can bend/amend the rules at will, but as for the rest--African Americans, Latino Americans being anti-American(?), Bill Clinton (he’s the first democrat, my mother ever really liked and I think that most of the men who dislike him are just jealous because they can’t get away with what he can), conspiracy theories about subjugating the masses by intermixing of races--I dunno, Mr. L.L.--sounds like things I’ve heard/ read before, straight out of a John Birch Society pamphlet; though after checking their website I noticed they’ve toned down their rhetoric some and now supposedly, even have Jewish members.

You ask me, “What do you yourself think the definitiion should be”?  What can I say about that? Berkley brownies appear to be your very own creation.  But what I will say and what to me is obvious is that radical extremism whether to the left or right becomes one and the same in the end; that indulging excessively and obsessively in conspiracy theories is not healthy.  And this is no berkley brownie stuff, just plain, good old-fashioned common sense.

Anita was giving you commands and now I’m commanding you and being pretty harsh at that!  Women can be such shrews, can’t they though!  Just a figure of speech, Mr. L.L., this, “you will have to....” I like to inject and infuse a little bit of humor sometimes; life’s too short and it beats stewing and brewing, ‘varities pac sava julta’ as the old Lat saying goes.

Irena

Miss Ambersun –

Somehow I do not see how you are complicating anybody’s life by mentioning “The Singing Revolution.” Surely there are many that enjoyed the film as you did.  As I mentioned before, I am in no position to talk about from a point of personal knowledge, and as it is outside my time period of historical interest, without you mentioning it, I most probably would have ignored it. 

Please pardon my ignorance – what is “kashchiba” ? 

Your statement that “It features . . . Balts as . . . worth supporting” - ?  Supporting in what and by whom?  The only support I see at this time is the flow of assets of Latvia into hands of manipulating international corporations, or scheming individuals like Soros.  I am still looking for fellow Latvians who would insist that “Mes esam KUNGI un KUNDZES musu zeme!” All I see is multi-culti crawlers.  And does not hyphenated nationality point to personality begging for handout of unearned recognition?  Maybe you are right naming the movie an Estonian-American product.  If we would advertise “Casablanca” as Jewish-American, maybe it could be used to bring additional monies in holocaust industrial coffers. ;)

You mention website by the creators of “The Singing Revolution”. Would you kindly post the URL?  Thank you.

You seem very interested in spreading information about Balts all around to gain acceptance by strangers unable to learn about their own country, much less about others, lesser quality peoples.

I am not reading Norman Davies. As a matter of fact, I did not pay much attention to him until you mentioned him in your posting.  Does he include the obligatory Latvian-SS bashing and Jewish suffering in his writings?

I believe it is the slogan of ex-nun Karen Armstrong: “do unto others as they would have done unto themselves.” There are several fallacies in this commandment. The easiest to see is Islamic religion.  I had extended correspondence with some Afghan freedom fighters during Russian-bolshevik occupation of Afghanistan, and they tried to explain to me the basics of Islamic tribes.  They are required to kill a number of members, preferably male, of other tribes.  A corresponding number is killed in return. So: “do unto others as they would have done unto themselves.” Among all sixteen or so tribes we call Afghans.

Is it not forced support of “braliba” and “masiba” when berkeley brownies insist of using only a first (formerly –Christian) name or some befuddled handle? Ashamed of one’s own family?

I did not mention Slick Willy to present him as a person.  He is symbol of all what is treacherous, pervert, and immoral.  Many see him as an excuse (another berkeley brownie requirement) for trespasses and liberties of their own.

Mention of President George W. Bush the way you did makes me ready to attack you personally, so I better go and stick my head in freezer.

:)

Mr. L. L.

sticking your head in the freezer is dangerous..........
get a brock-a-brella.

There are many screams about freedom of speech.  This is the same freedom that allows one to answer or not to answer questions.  Especially in forums where some questions can be interpreted as meant to create flaming.

Asking me about American democrats (bolsheviks) and republicans (zionists) is somewhat misplaced.  I do not care which pest one selects, and “Latvian-American” vote for president of America amounts to the same as peeing in the oceans and expecting waters to rise.

I feel honored that googling brought up my initials. Especially about my postings in Laughing Out Loud.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are no democrats, they are opportunists.  You are correct, many men loathe Bill because they cannot get away with their hippie-drug past, the anti-American demonstrations involving burning of Stars and Stripes, denouncing American citizenship, using Rhodes’ scholarship to get enlightened in Moscow, and weasel themselves into presidency of the country they openly despise.

I did not know that John Birch Society did not accept Jews.  When I was invited to join, they did not accept communists.  I did not join but in retrospect they would have helped me more in my life than Daugavas Vanagi.

As this conversation seem to settle down in reflection about persons – Ambersun, Anita(probably did not even read this topic :), Shrew, - that has no relation with the 15th May of original entry, is it not time for us to drop this topic and meet somewhere else?

Mr. L. L.