It was called Marvies.
A long time ago in southern California, after work on a Friday evening in Monrovia, a borough next to Pasadena where I lived, I stopped at a bar.  It turned out to be a lesbian bar.  For a while I had some of my best times there.
I was sitting at the bar there and struck up a conversation with a brunette and a blonde next to me.  Suddenly the brunette starts kissing me on the lips and after a while the blonde nudges the brunette away and continues kissing me, with me unable to even take a breath in between.  I have never ever been kissed so tenderly than that evening.  An other time I get a kiss and after an awkward moment her friend says ” well, you know, she has certain needs”.  Another time a beautiful blonde is sitting next to me and I tell her: “would it not be much simpler if she took off her clothes while standing in front of a mirror and play with herself?”. She looks at the mirror behind the bar and laughs and laughs.  When touched on the arm tenderly, some of them would turn their heads to look at me, and then make a bee line to the bathroom as fast as they could.  Occasionally one could get a whiff of Aqua Velva in the air.  On the juke box two favored tunes were “Blue Bayou” and “Blue Denim”.  This went on for some time till one evening I was politely asked to stop coming because I was upsetting the clientele too much.  Even that had the sweet feel of unfulfilled love about it.
However, I was never able to talk one of them to come home with me.  But then I do not think I could talk a nun to come home with me either.
I have a hard time equating lesbianism with male homosexuality.

Visu labu, 

Aqua Velva? Is your chin still itchy, Bruno?.......LOL

pete

I knew you were from CA, Bruno, but didn’t know you once lived in Pasadena.  This is where I lived for about 2 years, the very last 2 I spent there before moving back east to MA, from about 87 to 89.  It was pretty close to the Latvian Nams, in LA, on Riverside Dr, only about 20 minutes away.

Can’t say I remember this Marvie place in Monrovia though or even hearing about it.  But then again I wasn’t that familiar with the area, since I spent most of my years living on the west side, Venice, Santa Monica.  Besides, I was married, so I wasn’t in the habit of frequenting gay bars-bars.

BTW—kind of a strange topic methinks to bring up on the faith forum—Marvies, eh?

Irena

Bruno! I had no idea that you lead such an adventurous life!

Maybe you should have tried a Tootsie act just so you could keep calling in to that bar!

As for posting on the Faith Forum…why not, some of our other Forums need a bit of excitement, IMHO.

BTW—kind of a strange topic methinks to bring up on the faith forum—Marvies, eh?

Irena

Not too strange, Irena. Most of the
verbozos do not visit here, so it’s
a bit more peaceful….....
I do have a question fo you.
You said , on open forum, that homosexuals
are unjustly labeled as pedophiles in “Diena”
forums.
What are the real statistics?

There’s another factor involved in
reporting of molestations, Many of
the boys never report the incidents.
You know, the old “code of the west” thing.
  I’m afraid that my son wouldn’t say a word.
He just doesn’t talk about anything that
happens to him.
A gang of kids used to shake him down
for his lunch money. Well, we only found
out what was going on after the bullies
smashed his glasses.

pete

“Bruno! I had no idea that you lead such an adventurous life!”

I did mention that it was a long time ago.

“Maybe you should have tried a Tootsie act just so you could keep calling in to that bar!”

Hey, I have my pride.

Visu labu,

>“Bruno! I had no idea that you
>lead such an adventurous life!”
>
>I did mention that it was a long time
>ago.
>
>
>“Maybe you should have tried a
>Tootsie act just so you could keep
>calling in to that bar!”
>
>Hey, I have my pride.
>
>Visu labu,
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No Pride in Monrovia lately,
just Pajamamania.

pete

Pete~

I was referring to the Delfi forums (commentators), though I suppose that doesn’t really make much difference.  And I got the impression that many of those people automatically equated homosexuals with pedophiles.  They kept referring to gay people as ‘pedarasts’—how they didn’t want them around their kids.  I couldn’t find the definition of ‘pedarasts’, but I assume it’s a pedophile(?).  Guess that back in the days of Ulmani laiki, ‘labos, vecos laikos’, as some would say, this was a phenomena people didn’t discuss; actually, here in the states it was pretty much hush hush til around the ‘60’s.

In re: to your question where you quote what i said…‘homosexuals are unjustly labeled as pedophiles…’ and you ask, ‘What are the real statistics?’  I have to answer that I don’t know.  But my point was/is that not ALL homosexuals are automatically pedophiles, just as not ALL heterosexuals are pedophiles.

You do raise a good point about many boys probably never reporting molestations and I’m sorry to hear about those bullies smashing your son’s glasses.  I really HATE that sort of thing, that kind of behavior.  It’s cruel, ugly and cowardly, but unfortunately, there will always be bullies, young, adult and somewhere in between to contend with.

Irena

http://www.lirika.lv/custom/zargons/P.htm

Thanks ab.  Now why didn’t I think to look at that!  I do have it bookmarked. ‘Pederasts’ - a homosexual male.

Irena

>Thanks ab.  Now why didn’t I think to
>look at that!  I do have it bookmarked.
>‘Pederasts’ - a homosexual male.
>
>Irena

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Not quite…..but on the other hand,
what else.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/49/P0144900.html

pete

>>Thanks ab.  Now why didn’t I think
>to
>>look at that!  I do have it
>bookmarked.
>>‘Pederasts’ - a homosexual male.
>>
>>Irena
>
>///////////////////////////////
>
>Not quite…..but on the other hand,
>what else.
>
>http://www.bartleby.com/61/49/P0144900.html
>
>
>
>
>
>pete

Well, I’ll be…‘pederasts’, right there in the English language dictionary along with pedophile, the latter, I couldn’t find in my paperback Oxford American Dictionary—no pages missing either, though it’s pretty battered up.

Irena

>I have a hard time equating lesbianism
>with male homosexuality.

Bruno, I have no evidence at hand to support this, but I would imagine that many males see lesbianism with radically different eyes than they do with male to male gay relationships, even up to the point where they find lesbianism to be a real turn on, at least in theory. At the very least, many males would at least think it rather cute and/or endearing, rather than a threat.

It might be noted that English words that are similar to Latvian may not always mean the same.
For instance: adequate, adekvāts.

Once I accidentally came into a Lesbian bar, but the clientele was not the same as you saw.  Thhere were “dolls’, made up and dresed to kill.  There were also “butches”, short hair, no makeup, blue jeans or army fatigues, short, uneven fingernails.  They totally ignored me except for one butch.  That butch told me that, even though she was not turned on by men, she liked to talk to them, because she thought that men were intellectually more interesting than women.  Then she proceeded to tell me that she had fibroid tumors in her womb, and she was in danger of losing her femininity.

>than women.  Then she proceeded to tell
>me that she had fibroid tumors in her
>womb, and she was in danger of losing
>her femininity.

perhaps you were using the title “doctor” at the time?