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Posted: 09 November 2007 11:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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If your own will says “do not teach my children about God”, then that is your will. If my will says teach my children about God, then I will. Any person who thinks they know more about what I should teach my children is too full of himself. This forum seems to want to justify a particular persons point of view. Great..... but boring. My point is this, the original writer talks about letting a child become mature enough to make their own decisions, fine I can agree with that. But what do you show of yourself? If you are a father, you influence your children with all of your actions. If you teach them no belief system, then you teach them what you believe anyway. I believe in God, I teach my children that I do. I show them why I believe in Him. If in the future they chose to fo their own way, that’s their business, and their decision, I won’t condemn them if they do. My job is to be honest to myself and to what I personally believe, but if my children chose another path, that is their path. Holding back from telling children about Jesus simply means you don’t believe in Him. This forum was a lot of “big word” with fancy intonations about a topic that simply starred with “I don’t belive in God and I don’t want my children to be influenced by religion”.
Do what you want, I take my kids to church.

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Posted: 21 November 2007 07:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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No one has ever addressed the fact that at the time religion was reveled or discovered, there was a mixture of religious and secular people living together.  Despite the apparently wasteful expenditure of time, manpower, and resources in religious practices, the survival advantage of religious people was of such magnitude that nonreligious people were eliminated through the mechanism of the survival of the fittest.  Such overwhelming advantage argues for religion being an objective primary phenomenon, not a byproduct of some undefined hypothetical materialistic advantage,

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Posted: 22 November 2007 08:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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you have it backwards, Sesktator..............
societies that were were tolerant of religion
survived, not because they were religious.

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Posted: 24 November 2007 08:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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Are you saying that non-religous societies were intolerant, therefore they perished?  That is what I deduced from your comment.

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Posted: 24 November 2007 09:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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no, i was not talking about the intolerant societies, yet.

maybe seskis can help you to deduce............................

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Posted: 25 November 2007 06:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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Not only ancient Latvian religion, but all religions are in essence ways of life that babies absorb with their mothers’ milk, that form the bases of their lives.  The reason modern atheists redefine religion solely as belief in a supreme being is to set up a straw man which they can knock down in order to better promote their atheism.  Since in recorded history no society, no culture, no civilization has survived without a religion, trying to eradicate religion is futile at best, and courting disaster at worst.

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Posted: 27 November 2007 09:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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Since in recorded history no society, no culture, no civilization has survived without a religion, trying to eradicate religion is futile at best, and courting disaster at worst.

Mr. Spectatorre............would you give us some factual examples, mein googel ist kaput.

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Posted: 27 November 2007 07:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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That every known tribe, culture and civilization has had a religion to go with it is obvious from reading any book on anthropology.  If you have seen a book or an article describing any durable religionless society, please let me know.

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Posted: 28 November 2007 07:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]  
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Sho nuff, Spec. When you get to the library grab a handfull
of books about american natives.
And while at it, another pile of books about australian natives.
Let us know how it’s shaping up................

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Posted: 28 November 2007 07:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]  
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I have read plenty about Native Americans, and they have plenty religious rite, such as appealing to the Great Spirit, and proitiating the souls of the animals they killed.

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Posted: 29 November 2007 07:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]  
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How many indians did the white man kill to
establish his superior and religious society?
How many iraqis had to die because our
president followed god’s will?

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Posted: 29 November 2007 05:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]  
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You are taking pure greed, and equating it with religion.  You are setting up a straw man that you can knock down easily, and the declare victory!

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Posted: 29 November 2007 07:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]  
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Now you’re telling us that you
are full of straw...................
Pardon me while i smoke................LOL

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